Right-Wing Christianity IS about hate speech!


Rubio: Gay marriage proponents pose ‘danger’ to Christianity

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Washington (CNN)Florida Sen. Marco Rubio took a decidedly conservative turn on same-sex marriage in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network this week, warning that “there’s a real and present danger” that gay marriage proponents will cast the teachings of mainstream Christianity as “hate speech.”

“If you think about it, we are at the water’s edge of the argument that mainstream Christian teaching is hate speech. Because today we’ve reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage, you are labeled a homophobe and a hater,” the Republican presidential candidate said.

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“After they are done going after individuals, the next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity, the catechism of the Catholic Church, is hate speech and there’s a real and present danger,” Rubio warned.

Rubio has always been personally opposed to same-sex marriage and has argued the issue should be left up to the states.

But his comments to CBN Tuesday mark a notable shift in tone for a candidate who told CNN earlier this year that if the Supreme Court ruled in favor of same-sex marriage, “that would be the law of the land that we would have to follow until it’s somehow reversed.”

His choice to sound the alarm on a possible attack on Christianity aligns him more closely with the evangelicals he’ll be courting in the early primary states of Iowa and South Carolina. But Rubio’s statement comes at a time that Republicans increasingly see themselves losing the battle for public opinion over gay marriage.

In a sign of how fraught the issue has become, a prominent Christian conservative group just announcedthat it’s eliminating its “marriage pledge,” a 14-point credo the Family Leader circulated to candidates in 2012 that required them to pledge to back the definition of traditional marriage as between one man and one woman, among other things.

-Hey Marco, Hitchens67 here! What you spew from your myth-believing pie hole IS hate speech and not in line with what most logical people call, “Reality.” In 2015, in the U.S, we STILL have a large amount of people that believe an imaginary figure guides their lives, that, I find, is disturbing indeed!

Wake up and take control of your own lives! If you need a sky fairy to keep you on the straight and narrow then you just lack a REAL conscience to guide you! I just do good things because it’s the right thing to do, not because of the threat of some mythological Hell in the afterlife! Get fucking real and ditch the fairy tales Marco!

Famous Hitchens quotes.


 RIP Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011

The 20 Best Christopher Hitchens Quotes
December 16, 2011 by Daniel Florien 246 Comments
Christopher Hitchens has a lot of quote-worthy material, but here are 20 of my personal favorites:
“What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.”
The only position that leaves me with no cognitive dissonance is atheism. It is not a creed. Death is certain, replacing both the siren-song of Paradise and the dread of Hell. Life on this earth, with all its mystery and beauty and pain, is then to be lived far more intensely: we stumble and get up, we are sad, confident, insecure, feel loneliness and joy and love. There is nothing more; but I want nothing more.
The Portable Atheist
By trying to adjust to the findings that it once tried so viciously to ban and repress, religion has only succeeded in restating the same questions that undermined it in earlier epochs. What kind of designer or creator is so wasteful and capricious and approximate? What kind of designer or creator is so cruel and indifferent? And—most of all—what kind of designer or creator only chooses to “reveal” himself to semi-stupefied peasants in desert regions?
The Portable Atheist
The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
God Is Not Great
What happens to the faith healer and the shaman when any poor citizen can see the full effect of drugs or surgeries, administered without ceremonies or mystifications? Roughly the same thing as happens to the rainmaker when the climatologist turns up, or to the diviner from the heavens when schoolteachers get hold of elementary telescopes.
God Is Not Great
Religion looks forward to the destruction of the world…. Perhaps half aware that its unsupported arguments are not entirely persuasive, and perhaps uneasy about its own greedy accumulation of temporal power and wealth, religion has never ceased to proclaim the Apocalypse and the day of judgment.
God Is Not Great
Religion comes from the period of human prehistory where nobody—not even the mighty Democritus who concluded that all matter was made from atoms—had the smallest idea what was going on. It comes from the bawling and fearful infancy of our species, and is a babyish attempt to meet our inescapable demand for knowledge (as well as for comfort, reassurance, and other infantile needs). Today the least educated of my children knows much more about the natural order than any of the founders of religion.
God Is Not Great
The Bible may, indeed does, contain a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre, but we are not bound by any of it because it was put together by crude, uncultured human mammals.
God Is Not Great
If god really wanted people to be free of [wicked thoughts], he should have taken more care to invent a different species.
God Is Not Great
Is it too modern to notice that there is nothing [in the ten commandments] about the protection of children from cruelty, nothing about rape, nothing about slavery, and nothing about genocide? Or is it too exactingly “in context” to notice that some of these very offenses are about to be positively recommended?
God Is Not Great
Religion has run out of justifications. Thanks to the telescope and the microscope, it no longer offers an explanation of anything important. Where once it used to be able, by its total command of a worldview, to prevent the emergence of rivals, it can now only impede and retard—or try to turn back—the measurable advances that we have made.
Sometimes, true, it will artfully concede them. But this is to offer itself the choice between irrelevance and obstruction, impotence or outright reaction, and, given this choice, it is programmed to select the worse of the two.
Meanwhile, confronted with undreamed-of vistas inside our own evolving cortex, in the farthest reaches of the known universe, and in proteins and acids which constitute our nature, religion offers either annihilation in the name of god, or else the false promise that if we take a knife to our foreskins, or pray in the right direction, or ingest pieces of wafer, we shall be “saved.”
God Is Not Great
Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
God Is Not Great
Our belief is not a belief. Our principles are not a faith. We do not rely solely upon science and reason, because these are necessary rather than sufficient factors, but we distrust anything that contradicts science or outrages reason. We may differ on many things, but what we respect is free inquiry, openmindedness, and the pursuit of ideas for their own sake.
God Is Not Great
Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did.
God Is Not Great
If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in a quite different world.
God Is Not Great
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves.
Faith is the surrender of the mind; it’s the surrender of reason, it’s the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other mammals. It’s our need to believe, and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated.
Name me an ethical statement made or an action performed by a believer that could not have been made or performed by a non-believer.
Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.
Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the ‘transcendent’ and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don’t be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish. Picture all experts as if they were mammals. Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.

I am reminded every day of why I have such high regards for the late great Christopher Hitchens. He was one to shun foolish PC crap, yet champion the rights of everyone as long as they were trying to play well with others. In this day and age, we are constantly reminded of why we need in-your-face, unafraid intellectuals such as Hitchens to bring people back to their senses. I will never abandon his wariness of anything religious due to it’s ability to take believing in mythology too far and create false morality around it! I LOVE Hitch and his honesty, even though there are areas in which he and I would have most likely strongly disagreed. He might have well told me to piss of as he did some of his best friends due to political differences. I actually LIKE a person who is not afraid to tell a close friend that he thinks that he is fucked up in thinking a certain way! THAT is a person in which you can invest trust! That is a man who will not sell you out, an honest man. GAWD bless you hitch, and may Jeebus keep you in the eternal cheese pit of the Christentatious!

From http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/bible-atrocities


Bible Atrocities
Many in the religious culture insist that the God and the Holy Bible provide the foundation for all morality.

With that in mind, take a moment to browse some specific examples of God-endorsed atrocities. Then, ask yourself (honestly) how you would feel about these accounts of rape, incest, slavery, torture and infanticide if the acts had been perpetrated by a human being: Hitler, Stalin, Hussein, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.

Doesn’t your moral code require you to denounce these acts as horrific and monstrous? Do you hold God to a different standard simply because “He is God, and he can do whatever he wants?”

Think about it. Even if Yahweh existed, would he be truly worthy of our praise and allegiance? Or is the truly moral person obligated to shun and denounce this petty, jealous, cruel and murderous tyrant?

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GENESIS 34:13 Shechem had premarital sex with Jacob’s daughter Dinah, which angered Jacob’s sons. Shechem and his father, Hamor, agreed to circumcision for the men in the city in order for Shechem to marry Dinah and make Jacob’s other daughters eligible for the men of the city. Three days later, while the men were still enduring the pain of circumcision, Jacob’s sons attacked the unsuspecting city, killing Shechem and Hamor with swords, looting the city, seizing the flocks, herds, possessions and wealth, plundering the houses and carrying off their women and children.

GENESIS 6 & 7 Unhappy with the wickedness of man, God killed every living thing on the planet except Noah’s family. Men, women, infants and animals drowned in unimaginable terror and agony.

GENESIS 19:6- In Sodom, Lot’s home was assaulted by a homosexual mob seeking to have relations with two angels. Lot volunteered his virgin daughters to the crowd, saying “you can do what you like with them” as long as the guests are left alone. After offering his children to be raped, Lot was then appointed by God as worthy of rescue from Sodom’s destruction.

GENESIS 19:26: God, still unfazed by the proposed rape of Lot’s virgin daughters, turned Lot’s wife into a pillar of salt for the heinous crime of looking over her shoulder.

GENESIS 38: 8-10 – Onan was instructed by Judah to lay with his brother’s wife to produce offspring for his brother (who was put to death by God for wickedness). Onan slept with his brother’s wife but “spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother” (NIV). God found this wicked, so God killed him.

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EXODUS 2:12 Moses saw an Egyptian beating up a Hebrew. He looked around, saw no witnesses, killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand.

EXODUS 7:2-4 God hardened Pharaoh’s heart and planned his “mighty acts of judgment.

EXODUS 7:20-21 God turned the Nile river to blood. The fish died, and the water was undrinkable.

EXODUS 8: 6-7 God sent a plague of frogs which covered the land.

EXODUS 8:16 God sent a plague of gnats.

EXODUS 8:24 God sent a swarm of flies.

EXODUS 9:5 God killed all of the Egyptian livestock with a plague.

EXODUS 9:10 God sent a plague of festering boils on the people and animals.

EXODUS 9:22-25 God sent a hail storm to Egypt, striking man and animal, stripping the land.

EXODUS 12: 29 God killed the first-born in every Egyptian home that wasn’t marked with lamb’s blood.

EXODUS 17:13 Moses held out the staff of God, allowing Joshua to kill the Amalekites.

EXODUS 21:20-21 According to God’s law, it was wrong to beat a slave to the point of death. But if the slave survived and got back up within a few days, the beating wasn’t punishable, because the slave was the property of the master. (God endorsed slavery and the beating of slaves.)

EXODUS 32:27 After seeing the golden calf, God commanded the Levites, “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” 3,000 were slaughtered, and God was pleased.

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LEVITICUS 26:7-8 God rewarded obedience with assurances that enemies would all die by the sword.

LEVITICUS 26:22 God warned that, if the people didn’t listen to Him, he would send wild animals to rob parents of their children, destroy cattle and leave the roads deserted.

LEVITICUS 26:27-29 God threatened hostility, punishing people for their sins “seven times over,” making them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters.

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NUMBERS 12:9-14 God was displeased with Miriam, so he struck her with leprosy and banished her from the camp for seven days.

NUMBERS 15:32-36 A man gathered sticks for a fire on the Sabbath. By God’s command, he was stoned to death.

NUMBERS 16:27-33 The men were rebellious, so God caused the earth to open and swallow up the men, wives and children.

NUMBERS 16:35 A fire from God killed 250 men.

NUMBER 16:48 A plague from God killed 14,700

NUMBERS 21:3 The Lord gave the Canaanites over to Israel, who “completely destroyed them and their towns.”

NUMBERS 21:6 God sent venomous snakes, which bit and killed many Israelites.

NUMBERS 21:35 With God’s approval, the Israelites went into the city of Og, killed the king, his sons, the army (leaving no survivors) and took over the land.

NUMBERS 25:4 God told Moses to kill the leaders of Shittim and expose their bodies in broad daylight.

NUMBERS 25:8 Phinehas, son of Aaron the priest, killed an Israelite man and Midianite woman with a spear, plunging the spear “into the woman’s body.”

NUMBERS 25:9 A plague from God killed 24,000.

NUMBERS 31:9 Under God’s command, the Israelites captured the Midianite women and children, and “they took all the plunder and spoils.”

NUMBERS 31:17-18 God commanded Moses to kill all of the male Midianite children and “kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” The virgins were presumably raped. (NOTE: How could the soldiers know which women were virgins?)

NUMBERS 31:31-40 God divided the plunder to the soldiers, the priest, the Israelites and for tribute to the Lord. 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, 61,000 donkeys and 32,000 virgin women.

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DEUTERONOMY 2:33-34 Under God’s leadership, the Israelites utterly destroyed the men, women and children of Sihon. “…we left no survivors.”

DEUTERONOMY 3:6 Under God’s leadership, the Israelites destroyed the men, women and children of Og. They plundered the livestock and possessions.

DEUTERONOMY 7:2 God told the Israelites, regarding their enemies, to “destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.”

DEUTERONOMY 20:13-14 God laid down the rules for battle, instructing the slaughter of all of the men. Women, children, livestock and possessions could be taken as “plunder for yourselves.”

DEUTERONOMY 20:16 “…in the cities of the nations the LORD your god is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.”

DEUTERONOMY 21:10-13 According to God’s law, if an Israelite soldier was at war with an enemy, and he saw a beautiful woman that he found attractive, he could capture her to be his wife. She must then shave her head, trim her nails and discard the clothing she was wearing when captured. She could mourn her father and mother for a month. If the soldier wasn’t pleased with her for any reason, he could “let her go wherever she wishes.”

DEUTERONOMY 28:53 God’s punishment for disobedience included eating “the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you.”

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JOSHUA 6:21-27 Under God’s direction, Joshua destroyed the entire city of Jericho…men, women, teenagers and infants…with the edge of the sword. The soldiers then pillaged the silver, gold, bronze and iron for God and burned the city.

JOSHUA 7:19-26 Achan took a robe and some money from the plunder. Joshua and the Israelites took Achan, the loot, his sons, daughters, cattle, donkeys , sheep and possessions to the Valley of Achor, where all were stoned and burned.

JOSHUA 8:22-25 God helped Joshua battle and slaughter 12,000 men and women in the city of Ai. None escaped.

JOSHUA 10:10-27 God helped Joshua slaughter the Gibeonites.

JOSHUA 10;28 With God’s approval, Joshua put the city of Makkedah” to the sword and totally destroyed everyone in it. He left no survivors.”

JOSHUA 10:30 The Lord gave the city of Libnah to Joshua. Everyone in the city was “put to the sword.”

JOSHUA 10:32-33 God gave his approval as Joshua killed every man, woman and child in Lachish with the sword.

JOSHUA 10:34-35 Everyone in the city of Eglon was killed by the sword of Joshua and his army.

JOSHUA 10:36-37 God approved as Joshua killed the king of Hebron, its villages and every citizen. “They left no survivors.”

JOSHUA 10:38-39 Joshua took Israel’s army to attack Debir. They killed everyone.

JOSHUA 11:6 God commanded Joshua to defeat the enemy at the Waters of Merom. “You are to hamstring their horses and burn their chariots.”

JOSHUA 11:8-15 Joshua’s army, under God’s command, did not spare “anyone that breathed.”

JOSHUA 11:20 “For it was the LORD himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the LORD had commanded Moses.”

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JUDGES 1:4 God gave the Canaanites and Perizzites into the hands of Judah. 10,000 enemy killed.

JUDGES 1:6 Adoni-Bezek (of the Canaanites) fled, but Judah’s army chased him down and sliced off his thumbs and big toes.

JUDGES 1:8 God approved the attack by Judah on Jerusalem. Judah’s army killed and set the city aflame.

JUDGES 1:17 With God’s approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroyed the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath.

JUDGES 3:29 The Lord delivered the Moabites into the hands of the Israelites. “At that time they struck down about then thousand Moabites, all vigorous and strong; not a man escaped.”

JUDGES 4:21 Jael drove a tent stakes through the head of Sisera.

JUDGES 7:19-25 Under God’s direction, the Gideons defeated the Midianites. They killed and decapitated their princes and delivered the heads to Gideon.

JUDGES 8:15-21 Gideon punisheed the men of Succoth with desert thorns and briers. He then “pulled down the tower of Peniel and killed the men of the town.”

JUDGES 9:5 Abimalech murdered his own brothers.

JUDGES 9:45 Abimalech and his men killed everyone in the city. Then he scattered salt over it.

JUDGES 9:53-54 Abimelech was laying siege to the city of Thebez when a woman cracked his head with a stone. “Hurredly, he called to his armor-bearer, ‘Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can’t say “a woman killed him”.’ So his servant ran him through, and he died.”

JUDGES 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrificed his beloved daughter as a burnt offering after God gave him victory in battle.

JUDGES 15:15 Samson killed 1,000 men with the jawbone of an ass.

JUDGES 16:27-30 God helped Samson pull down the pillars of the temple, killing 3,000.

JUDGES 18:27 The Danies went on to Laish, against a peaceful and unsuspecting people. They attacked them with the sword and burned down their city.

JUDGES 19:22-29 A traveler from Bethlehem, his concubine and servant stayed as guests of an old man in Gibeah. Wicked men of the city surrounded the house, demanding to have sex with the male guest. The old homeowner offered his virgin daughter and the concubine, imploring the mob to “do to them whatever you wish.” The concubine was raped and died. The traveler put her dead body on his donkey, went home, took a knife, and hacked her into twelve pieces. He then sent the pieces to each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

JUDGES 20:43-48 The Israelites killed 25,000 men. 600 men fled to the desert. The Israelites went and put everyone in the towns “to the sword, including the animals and everything else they found.” Then they burned the towns down.

JUDGES 21:10-12 The assembly killed every male and non-virgin female in Jabesh Gilead. They found 400 virgins to bring back for themselves.

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1 SAMUEL 4:10 The Philistines killed 30,000 Israelite soldiers.

1 SAMUEL 5:6-9 As punishment for stealing the Ark of the Covenant, God afflicted the Philistines with tumors in their “secret parts.”

1 SAMUEL 6:19 Some of the men of Beth Shemesh looked into the Ark. God punished them by killing all 70 of them.

1 SAMUEL 7:7-11 God helped Samuel’s men kill the Philistines, “slaughtering them along the way to a point below Beth Car.”

1 SAMUEL 11:11 Under God’s blessing, Saul and his army slaughtered the Ammonites “until the heat of the day.”

1 SAMUEL 14:31 Jonathan and his men slaughtered the Philistines and “pounced on the plunder,” eating meat with blood in it. God supported the slaughter of men but was displeased at the eating of unclean meat. So Saul built an altar to the Lord.

1 SAMUEL 15:7-8 God commanded Saul to attack the Amalekites and “totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

1 SAMUEL 15:33 “Samuel put Agag to death before the Lord at Gilgal.”

1 SAMUEL 18:27 David and his men killed 200 Philistines, presenting their foreskins to the king to win Michal in marriage.

1 SAMUEL 30:17 David killed all but 400 Amalekites, who escaped.

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2 Samuel
2 SAMUEL 2:23 Abner thrust the butt of his spear through Asahel’s stomach.

2 SAMUEL 3:30 As revenge for Asahel’s death, Joab and Abishai killed Abner.

2 SAMUEL 4:7-8 Ish-bosheth was lying on the bed in his bedroom. Recab and Baanah went into the room, stabbed and killed him. They decapitated him and took the head to David at Hebron. David was not pleased that an innocent man has been murdered.

2 SAMUEL 4:12 David punished Rechan and Baanah by killing them, chopping off their hands and feet and hanging their bodies by the pool at Hebron.

2 SAMUEL 6:6-7 The oxen carrying the Ark of God stumbled, and Uzzah reached out to steady it. God punished his “irreverent act” by killing him where he stood.

2 SAMUEL 6:22-23 Michal mocked David for exposing himself to slave girls. Michal was punished by God, who made her barren of children for the rest of her life. (Also note the contradiction in 2 Samuel 21:8, where Michal is said to NOT be barren, but instead has five children.)

2 SAMUEL 8:1-18 David’s acts included killing 2 out of 3 Moabite soliders, hamstringing 6,900 chariot horses, killing 22,000 Syrians, and striking down 18,000 Edomites in the Valley of Salt. Verse 6 says “…The Lord gave David victory wherever he went.”

2 SAMUEL 10:18 David killed 700 charioteers and 40,000 Aramean foot soldiers.

2 SAMUEL 11:14-27 David coveted Uriah’s wife. So he had him killed in battle so David could have Bathsheba for himself.

2 SAMUEL 12:1 For David’s murder of Uriah, God killed David’s child.

2 SAMUEL 13:1-15 David’s son, Amnon, fell in love with his own sister, Tamar, a virgin. She protested his advances, (verse 14) “but he refused to listen to her, and since he was stronger than she, he raped her.” Afterward, Amnon hated her and cast her out of the room.

2 SAMUEL 13:28-29 Tamar’s brother Absalom ordered his men to get Amnon drunk, then kill him for raping his sister.

2 SAMUEL 18:6-7 David’s army slaughtered 20,000 men in the forest of Ephraim.

2 SAMUEL 18:15 Joab took 3 javelins and plunged them into Absalom’s heart. Ten other men struck and killed him.

2 SAMUEL 20:10-12 Joab plunged a dagger into Amasa’s belly, spilling his intestines onto the ground. Amasa died, wallowing in his blood inthe middle of the road.

2 SAMUEL 24:15 God sent a plague on Israel to punish David for sin. 70,000 people died.

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1 Kings
1 KINGS 2:24-25 Solomon killed Adonijah.

1 KINGS 2:29-34 Solomon killed Joab.

1 KINGS 13-15-24 A prophet lied to a man, telling him it was fine to eat bread and drink water in a place the Lord had previously told him not to. The deceived man ate and drank there. God sent a lion to kill him, “and his body was thrown down on the road.”

1 KINGS 20:29-30 The Israelites fought the Syrians. Enemy body count for a single day = 100,000. A wall fell on the 27,000 remaining people.

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2 Kings
2 KINGS 1:10-12 Elijah called down fire from heaven. 50 men were consumed by the flames.

2 KINGS 2:23-24 – 42 Fourty-two children made fun of Elisha on the roadside because he was bald. Elisha cursed them. Two bears came out of the woods and mauled them to death.

2 KINGS 5:27 Elisha cursed Gehazi and his descendants, forever, with leprosy.

2 KINGS 6:18-19 The enemy came toward Elisha, and he prayed to God, “Strike these people with blindness.” God made them blind. Elisha then tricked them and led them to Samaria, where God opened their eyes again.

2 KINGS 6:29 A woman cried out to the king of Israel, lamenting a great famine. She was upset because she had agreed to cook her son and eat him, but after the deed, another woman had refused to do the same.

2 KINGS 9:24 Jehu tricked Joram, then murdered him with a bow and arrow, piercing his heart.

2 KINGS 9:27 Jehu ordered his men to kill Ahaziah, king of Judah.

2 KINGS 9:30-37 Jehu had Jezebel killed. Horses trampled her and her blood splattered the wall. Dogs ate her flesh and her remains were called “refuse” (trash).

2 KINGS 10:7 Jehu had Ahab’s 70 sons beheaded. He then sent the heads to their grieving father.

2 KINGS 10:14 Jehu ordered the death of Ahab’s family…42 people.

2 KINGS 10:17 According to God’s word (spoken to Elijah), Jehu went to Samaria and “killed all who were left there of Ahab’s family; he destroyed them…”

2 KINGS 10:19-27 Jehu trapped the Baal worshippers in the temple. He then told the guards, “Go in and kill them; let no one escape.” They slaughtered the worshippers and burned down the temple, using it as a latrine from that day forward.

2 KINGS 11:1 Athaliah destroyed the royal family.

2 KINGS 14:5 Amaziah executeed the officials who murdered his father.

2 KINGS 14:3-5 God was unhappy with Azariah, even though he had done what was right in the eyes of the Lord. The high places had not been removed, and God was jealous of their sacrifices on that altar. So God afflicted Azariah with leprosy as punishment.

2 KINGS 15:16 Menahem attacked the city of Tiphsah. He destroyed the town and “ripped open all of the pregnant women.”

2 KINGS 19:35 An angel of the Lord killed 185,000 men in the Assyrian camp.

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2 Chronicles
2 CHRONICLES 13:17 God delivered the Israelites to Abijah and Judah. 500,000 enemy dead.

2 CHRONICLES 21:4 Jehoram killed all of his brothers, and some of the princes of Israel…put to death by sword.

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ISAIAH 13:15 Isaiah saw a prophecy regarding Babylon. “Whoever is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives ravished.”

ISAIAH 13:18 God’s punishment for Babylon was further described. “Their bows will strike down the young men; they will have no mercy on infants, nor will they look with compassion on children.”

ISAIAH 14:21-23 “Prepare a place to slaughter his sons for the sins of their forefathers; they are not to rise to inherit the land and cover the earth with their cities. ‘I will rise up against them,’ declares the Lord Almighty.”

ISAIAH 49:26 God’s punishment on those who came against Israel. “I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh; they will be be drunk on their own blood, as with wine. Then all mankind will know that I, the Lord, am your Savior…”

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JEREMIAH 16:4 The word of the Lord about the children born in this land says “They will die of deadly diseases. They will not be mourned or buried but will be like refuse lying on the ground. They will perish by sword and famine, and their dead bodies will become food for the birds of the air and the bests of the earth.” Back to top ↑

EZRA 6:12-13 Darius’ decree said that, if anyone changed his edict, “a beam is to be pulled from his house and he is to be lifted up and impaled on it.” Then the house was to be demolished.

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JOB 1 To prove a point, God gave Satan permission to torment Job and test his righteousness. Job’s children were killed. Job’s possessions were destroyed. Job tore his clothes and shaved his head from grief.

JOB 2 God allows Satan to smite Job’s body with horrible boils “from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.” Job scraped his afflicted skin with a piece of broken pottery. His wife tells Job to “Curse God and die.” Job’s friends found him unrecognizable. This is how God treats his beloved children. Back to top ↑

EZEKIEL 20:26 Israel rebelled, and God’s punishment was sobering. “I let them become defiled through their gifts- the sacrifice of every firstborn- that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.”

EZEKIEL 23:34 God said that prostitutes would drink a cup of scorn and tear their breasts.

EZEKIEL 23:45-47 God punished adultery. “…Bring a mob against them and give them over to terror and plunder. The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords; they will kill their sons and daughters and burn down their houses.”

HOSEA 13:16 Because Israel had rebelled, a wind from the Lord would blow in. They “will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, and their pregnant women ripped open.”

(Most of our focus has been on the Old Testament, but we’ve thrown in afew New Testament zingers just to quell the “Law VS Grace” crowd.)

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MATTHEW 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” Jesus endorses the mass murder, rape, slavery, torture and incest written about in the Old Testament.

MATTHEW 8:12 Jesus warned of eternal torture in hell, “into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

MATTHEW 10:35-36 Following Jesus meant the possibility of turning a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, etc. “…a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.”

MATTHEW 11:21-24 The cities of Korazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum were not impressed with Jesus’ great works, so Jesus said “Woe to you” and cursed them to a fate more unbearable than that of Sodom.

MATTHEW 8:21 A man sought to follow Jesus, but he wanted to bury his recently deceased father before he went. Jesus replied, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.” Jesus ignored the man’s grief.

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MARK 4:10 In Jesus’ parable of the sower, he told his disciples that he spoke to others in parables so they’d remain confused…”otherwise they might turn and be forgiven.”

MARK 7:10 Jesus taught that any child who cursed his parents should be killed according to Old Testament law.

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LUKE 8:32-33 Jesus cast demons out of a naked man and into a large herd of pigs. They fell over a cliff to their death. The town asked Jesus to leave.

LUKE 12:47 Jesus warned that a servant of God who does not heed his master will be “beaten with many blows.”

LUKE 19:26 In the parable of the ten minas, the master (God) said of those who chose not to follow him, “…bring them here and kill them in front of me.”

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JOHN 6:53-66 Jesus said to eat his flesh and drink his blood. Despite the metaphorical tone, many disciples were uncomfortable with the idea and chose to walk away.

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ACTS 5:1-9 Ananias lied about the money he’d made on sold property, keeping some for himself. God killed him, then killed his wife for being in on it.

ROMANS 1:26-27 Paul said that homosexuals deserve death.

EPHESIANS 1:4-5 Despite all of Jesus’ instructions to accept him as savior, Jesus also says God “predestined” those will be saved according to His pleasure.

HEBREWS 12:20 God said that animals must be stoned to death if they lay foot upon Mt. Zion.

1 Peter
1 PETER 1:20 Despite God’s failed experiment in the Garden of Eden, the mass execution of Noah’s flood and the final solution of Christ’s sacrifice, Jesus was predestined to be crucified all along. “He was chosen before the creation of the world,”

REVELATION 6:8 In the End Times, God gives Death permission to slaughter 25% of the earth’s population by “sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.”

Do unto others goddammit!


I know that I’m workin’ yo dissonance here, but we don’t need state subsidized sky fairies anymore. We know where the sun comes from and why the rain falls. We know that illness is random and doesn’t play fair but are only fucking with our own heads when we falsely rationalize that our dead loved ones are in a better place. The fact of the matter is is that the body and all that is contained in it is either in the ground or in the burn pan if the body has been cremated.

The mythology surrounding gods and angels is a well worn mythology that is very entertaining, but serves little function in a scientific world where the discoveries being made are sure as Hell more interesting than the bogus claims of the religious zealots. Mythology makes for great cinema and for those of us who remember The Omen, it sure as fuck was awesome entertainment, but if one actually believes that the son of Satan dwells upon the Earth, then these people are gonna have a Helluva wait for the fireworks between the son of God and ‘ol Damian to fly! This is whats generally known as ‘Cultish Crap,’ and has no actual relevance in the true scientific scheme of things. You see, scientists are NOT going to discover a child born of a jackal and then mysteriously die in a freak auto accident, they are going to trudge on revealing absolutely NO PROOF of the supernatural fairies of the bonzo world of the Holy Bible! In fact, they will continue to dismiss the arrogant, unfounded, ridiculous claims that that book of fairy stories continues to pass off as real. Hell, even Bill O’Reilly, who attacks atheists at every turn, cannot elevate the Bible to anything but “Parables, a book to guide one on a moral path. Of course I don’t take the Bible literally.” Strange though, that if you don’t believe that the Bible is the inspired work of God through his supplicants, you have to disbelieve in the story of Adam and Eve as a literal interpretation.

If the Adam and Eve story is not true, than Original Sin is not a fact and that negates the entire Noah thing from EVER having to come to pass, and that we do not even need a Savior to come down and sacrifice Himself to Himself, even though He is God on Earth, and he does not have to wash away the sins of man, because Original Sin actually does not exist! FUUUUUCK! Religion has WAY too many renditions of itself to be taken seriously! How can ANY faction claim legitimacy unless……none of it is real???!!

This obvious conundrum aside, I recently saw that horrible piece of shit Noah, ( thank Glob not in the theater ), and can see why it both sucked, and was reviled by the Christian masses. Not only does it defer to Jewish mythological interpretation, but it also retells the story for maximum movie excitement value, endorses Evolution, and portrays Noah as any other person in the Bible; as a person of blind devotion to something that he cannot see and is able to justify murder in it’s name, a zealot, an unhinged, paranoid radical! Perfect, a standard Biblical figure!

Thank Glob that the Bible is just ‘Parables’ and that most mainstream people don’t actually believe in talking snakes and bushes. That is why I have suggested The One Commandment to be adopted over The Ten Commandments, my One Commandment, 1. Do not fuck with people without reason to do so and let them live in peace worshipping what they want to, and be generally good to all without having to be told to fucking do so. A-Fucking-Men!

Debate that will frustrate!


The video does not follow the debate content between Alex Botten and Sye Ten Bruggencate, but the audio is incredible in that it shows how sheeple are convinced by the smoke and mirror parlor tricks of Bruggencate. This person asks the question, “How do you know,” so many times in irrelevancy that I cannot count! Circuitous argument is how debaters trick sheep into believing their bullshit arguments. 25 min in the only proof that Bruggencate cites is the most unprovable document produced, the Christian Bible!

Take the Jesus out of Jesus!

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Posted: 05/14/2014 2:39 pm EDT Updated: 05/14/2014 2:59 pm EDT

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If the irresistible temptation to fashion Jesus in one’s own image persists today, nearly 2,000 years after the crucifixion, it must have been even more tempting for the gospel writers, translators, and scribes who reproduced “the words of God” to do the same.

The gospel according to Bill O’Reilly gives us the tea party Jesus, an insurrectionist obsessed with government and taxation. As Selina O’Grady wrote in her causticGuardian review:

[Bill O’Reilly] created a Tea Party son of God. Jesus, the little guy, is an enemy of the big corrupt tax-oppressing Roman empire, which is itself just a version of Washington, only even more venal and sexually depraved. This Jesus is a tax-liberating rebel who incurs the wrath of the Jewish and Roman powers by threatening their joint fleecing of the people. As a member of the populist right, he is not, of course, in favour of redistribution: Bill O’Reilly’s Jesus does not tell the rich to give away their money to the poor.


The four canonical gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) were written 30 to 70 or more years after the crucifixion — and, according to biblical scholars, most likely authored by converts who did not witness the events they retold based on oral transmission. Biblical scholar Bart Ehrman reminds us that no one has ever seen an original copy of the Christian Bible, or a first copy of the original. Early copies were created one at a time by scribes, who may have heard different versions of the stories or even just bits and pieces. These editions were then copied by other scribes or translated from Aramaic and Hebrew into Coptic and Greek and then into Latin. The loose process of reproduction opened an immense opportunity for differing interpretations of words and phrases, outright errors (not all scribes were scholars, and some may have been scoundrels), and the infusion of personal perspectives and ideologies.

Imagine if Bill O’Reilly were the first scribe to translate the gospels. His ideology surely would have compromised or edited the “words of God,” giving today’s right-wing conservatives even greater license for their orgy of wealth and war on the poor. Expand that scenario to an army of Bill O’Reilly scribes down through the ages, with different languages, ideologies and prejudices, and we can begin to appreciate the hazards of thinking of the gospels as history remembered rather than history storied.

The four canonical gospels themselves raise a red flag, since they offer many different versions of the “words of God.” For example, did Mary, Joseph, and Jesus flee to Egypt after Jesus’ birth, as told in the gospel of Mathew, or did Mary go to the temple in Jerusalem for the Jewish purification ritual 30 days after giving birth, as prescribed in the Torah and reported in Luke’s gospel? In this version the family returned to Nazareth without a side trip to Egypt. The gospel of John says the Last Supper was two days before Passover, but the three synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) place it on the traditional eve of Passover. During the arrest of Jesus in Gethsemane Garden, did Judas identify Jesus with a kiss, as described in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, or did Jesus identify himself (twice, with no kiss), in accordance with the gospel of John? And as Bart Ehrman notes:

In Matthew, Jesus comes into being when he is conceived, or born, of a virgin; in John, Jesus is the incarnate Word of God who was with God in the beginning and through whom the universe was made. In Matthew, there is not a word about Jesus being God; in John, that’s precisely who he is. In Matthew, Jesus teaches about the coming kingdom of God and almost never about himself (and never that he is divine); in John, Jesus teaches almost exclusively about himself, especially his divinity. In Matthew, Jesus refuses to perform miracles in order to prove his identity; in John, that is practically the only reason he does miracles.


What about other gospels? By the end of the first century, there were scores of Christian sects. In second-century Rome four major splinter groups, with vastly different theologies and views on Jesus, were fiercely competing for dominance. Each group had its own leaders, texts, and gospels. In early Christianity more than 50 other gospels existed, with many different accounts of Jesus and his teachings. In the fourth century, after the Council of Nicaea established a unified Catholic Church, the four canonical gospels were sanctioned for the New Testament. Since it’s well known that history is written by the winners, the 27 books of the New Testament became the official “words of God.” Other gospels were banned or burned or just faded into oblivion, since copying them was forbidden. But then serendipitously in modern times, a trove of the early alternative gospels were recovered from Middle East caves and the Egyptian desert; they challenge the accuracy of the church-sanctioned gospels.

Despite the contradictions and skepticism about the historicity of the New Testament, in one sense it contains the “facts” — that is, the “functional facts,” the scriptures that have framed the way Christians have thought about Jesus, Christianity, and Jews since the fourth century. Stop Christians on the street and ask them about the alternative gospels — the gospels of Philip, Thomas, Mary Magdalene, and others — and watch the puzzled looks. The populace only know the four canonical gospels — and for many, only superficially, if at all, considering the “scandalous” rate of biblical illiteracy that has been reported.

That may explain why so many miss the thoroughly Jewish Jesus of the canonical gospels. Jesus’ dedication to Judaism could not be denied or erased from the gospels without undermining Christianity, which based its authenticity on Jewish ancestry and Jewish prophesy.

On one count, Bill O’Reilly gets a high grade. His Jesus is thoroughly Jewish. Unlike the curves injected into the canonical gospels, Bill’s Jesus remains Rabbi Jesus, revered to the end by his exclusively Jewish followers. Jesus’ conflict is clearly with the Jewish leadership, not with his fellow Jews or spiritual Jewish theology. Even as Jesus is condemned to death, O’Reilly comments, “It is not the Jewish Pilgrims who want Jesus dead nor most of the residents of Jerusalem [Jews]. No, it is a small handful of men who enrich themselves through the Temple.”

In contrast, the gospel writers, in their effort to establish the new religion of Christianity, inserted contradictory tidbits of anti-Semitism, suggesting Jesus had broken with Judaism. Not surprisingly, the gospel of John, the last of the canonical gospel to be penned, is the most anti-Semitic. It was written after the brutal Roman war with Jews that led to the destruction of the Jerusalem temple in 70 C.E. Converts to Christianity were then primarily Roman pagans. There was no currency in connecting Jesus to Judaism, but great value in casting him falsely in opposition to Judaism — and making the Romans the good guys.

Those who continue to believe that Jesus was anything but a dedicated Jew or insist that he launched the new religion of Christianity must explain why he didn’t play the Christian card when he was facing death for blasphemy against Judaism.

The Sanhedrin, the ruling body of Judaism that condemned Jesus, only had authority over Jewish affairs. If Jesus had defected from Judaism and believed he was launching a new religion, why didn’t he say that in his defense to escape the jurisdiction of the Sanhedrin? If he had taken that route and the Romans still wanted him out of the way (as believed by Bill O’Reilly, Reza Aslan and others), we wouldn’t have been saddled with the debate about who killed Jesus, a debate that spans centuries and continues today. It would have been clear that the Romans did it. And hundreds of thousands of Jews who were slaughtered as “Christ killers” would have been spared. Of course, Jesus couldn’t play the Christian card because there was no Christianity at the time, and Jesus had no intention of starting a new religion. In his mind and the minds of his followers, as noted in Killing Jesus, he was Rabbi Jesus till the end.

Just as an added note, the same argument pertains to Paul, who is almost universally credited with establishing the separate religion of Christianity. Yet he too was charged with blasphemy against Judaism by the Sanhedrin and faced death. If Paul, in his mind, had started a new religion and had rejected Judaism, why didn’t he play the Christian card? Paul had an even more persuasive argument than Jesus:

Sanhedrin: I worship Jesus Christ whom you reject. I’m no longer a Jew, I’m a Christian. You have no authority over me as the leader of a religion other than Judaism. Governor Felix (the Roman prefect): I’m a Roman Citizen — born a Roman citizen — and I proclaim I’m a Christian not a Jew. If the Sanhedrin could indict non Jews for blasphemy they would indict you and all Romans. Would you tolerate that? You must release me according Roman law.


Would Felix have any option other than releasing Paul, especially since the Romans had no argument with him (Acts 28:16-18)? Yet Paul allows the charge of blasphemy of a Jew against Judaism to stand — without challenging it. In doing so he squanders five years at the height of his ministry (it’s now almost 30 years after the crucifixion) with arrest, imprisonment, transport to Rome for his trial, and several years of house arrest in Rome before he is executed — as a Jew. Why?

One obvious explanation stands out. In Paul’s mind his brand of Jewish Christianity was the new Judaism open to everyone. But after his passing, that vision was lost. The converted Roman pagans picked up the Christian baton. This group, having no ties to Judaism, sought increasingly to distance Christianity from Judaism; thus the separate religion was firmly launched.

Unfortunately, the gospels and later parts of the New Testament do not take up or even mention why neither Jesus nor Paul played the Christian card. I wish Bill O’Reilly had. It’s a serious issue that can’t be casually dismissed!

Bernard Starr is a psychologist, journalist, and college professor. He is the author ofJesus Uncensored: Restoring the Authentic Jew and the organizer of the art exhibit “Putting Judaism Back in the Picture: Toward Healing the Christian Jewish Divide.”

-This article explains exactly what atheists have been saying about the Bible for years. The author meant the article for a different reason, but I think it is a great historical starting point for new atheists. I tend to go with, the Bible is the work of men and couldn’t possibly be inspired by the divine unless the divine is completely retarded.