skepticism and PC


I was listening to The Thinking Atheist podcast the other day and the topic was Black atheists and their experience since they declared their non-belief in their communities today.  The people that Seth Andrews spoke to that day were very forthright and adamant about the way that their atheism was portrayed and the terms used to describe them. They were basically all united upon the ‘African American” line in that they disliked the limiting label that it provided. They ALL preferred the term “Black” over any of the other terms offered.


I agree in that I do not see color as a barrier but I do see color as an attribute. To see a person in a color blind setting is to not see the incredibly sexy,(in my opinion ), almond skin tone of the person before you. For me it is accentuated in women because I am male. The reverse is applicable to females. I see the awesome attributes that my senses allow me to see and that is the way that humans are supposed to percieve things.

The bottom line for us animals is that you have us at “Hi gorgeous,” no matter what sex you are or color. My barometer measures it at “DUUUUUUHHHHH” for attractive females no mater what color!

I am currently 46 yrs old and would caution any person against marriage because of the overwhelming negative feedback that I have gotten from my friends and from the miserable marriage that I, myself am in. I have young children that I cannot hurt so I am trapped, that is why I urge all of my listeners to reconsider the torture of marriage!


Good news my friends!!


(CNN) — All the traditional elements were in place for Joseph and Fiona Long’s 2009 New Year’s Eve wedding.

She wore a white dress; he wore a tuxedo and her family wore kilts in honor of her Scottish heritage. After they exchanged vows and rings and sealed the deal with a kiss, an officiant in a black robe pronounced them husband and wife. Then, they dined and danced the night away at an Atlanta country club with their closest friends and loved ones, culminating in a midnight confetti drop.

Missing from the guest list: God.

The Longs are atheists who did not want gods or religious texts involved in their marriage celebration. But apart from the non-church setting, the only hint at an deliberately non-religious wedding was contained within their vows and readings. These included selections from Shakespeare, Robert Burns and the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage, which they felt “beautifully expressed the social and secular significance of marriage without any appeal to religion,” said Joseph Long, a lawyer in Tampa, Florida.


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“We felt it made the point well that you can have the sanctity of marriage without having to fit into a particular group,” he said. “It basically states that marriage is extremely important in society for a variety of reasons, regardless of what someone’s god thinks about it.”

As secularism continues to rise in the United States, more couples like the Longs are deviating from a traditional wedding blueprint that includes prayers, blessings and biblical passages.

“A secular wedding can be exactly like a religious wedding with two key differences: no mention of any deities and no recitation of supposedly sacred texts,” said David G. McAfee, author of “Mom, Dad, I’m an Atheist: The Guide to Coming Out as a Non-Believer and Disproving Christianity and other Secular Writings.”

“Many secular weddings have vows, flowers, rings, a reception, a kiss at the end,” he continued. “Although most religions have incorporated marriage rules and ceremonies into their faiths, the act of marriage itself is not a religious one; it’s a human one.”

Venues, readings and vows are just some considerations for atheist couples or couples planning secular weddings. Others struggle with how to break the news to relatives or meet their demands, especially if those loved ones are helping pay for it.

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Some couples provide relatives with opportunities to say a few words within set parameters during the ceremony or reception, said Ed Buckner, former president of American Atheists and current chair of the Atlanta Freethought Society. He has performed several atheist weddings over the past decade and emphasizes that it’s important to talk about it ahead of time, openly and honestly.

“You need to stop and think about what you want to accomplish. Are you trying to publicly commit to a lifelong union with your partner on your terms, or do you want to please others?” he said.

“I would argue that if you don’t believe in God and have God blessing the celebration, you’re participating in a sham. But, there are ways to to acknowledge God for others, if that’s what you want,” Buckner advised.

Give fair warning

Andrew and Wendy Rank chose to have a small, secular wedding ceremony.
Andrew and Wendy Rank chose to have a small, secular wedding ceremony.

Buying a home was more important to Wendy Rank and her fiance than spending big bucks on a wedding. Instead, they went to a justice of the peace in September “for the official stuff” and held a “picnic wedding” in their backyard later in the day. Her mother paid for catering while more local guests brought side dishes.

“We wanted to get married, but we’re not really comfortable with doing it in a church and all that stuff,” Rank said. “We’re introverts, so we didn’t want a big wedding. Just a few friends and family. This way, we had a wedding and a housewarming party.”

They wanted to keep it simple and inexpensive for everyone. Rank comes from a family of believers, so she felt like she needed to warn them on the wedding invitation with a message to the effect of: “This is a small, nontraditional secular service. If you’re comfortable with that, we’d love to have you.”

Most relatives ended up coming, though no one who didn’t show up explicitly cited the secular event as the reason. “We wanted to put it out there so no one would book a flight and fly 3,000 miles expecting a pastor and a ceremony.”

It worked out for the guests as well; several of her mother’s religious friends said they enjoyed the wedding it because it was “short and sweet.” The mothers of the newlyweds did a reading from Calvin and Hobbes before the couple exchanged rings and planted a tree — their twist on a unity candle.

“No one said anything or seemed to or care that it was secular or atheist wedding,” said Rank, who lives outside Nashville, Tennessee. “It was a perfect day.”

Elope now, wedding later

Darren and Sheena Thomas eloped this summer.
Darren and Sheena Thomas eloped this summer.

Darren and Sheena Thomas are proud atheists who met on the dating site OK Cupid. Both come from deeply religious families.

As the son of a nondenominational Christian pastor, Darren Thomas grew up going on mission trips and attending church camp. At 16, he stopped going to church and became the black sheep of the family. In his 20s, he started identifying as atheist, meaning he doesn’t believe in “anything supernatural: God, the afterlife, ghosts, spirits, supernatural souls, anything like that.”

When he came out to his parents, they tried to convince him to return to Christianity for a period of time. Eventually, his father acknowledged that there was nothing he could say or do and decided it was up to God to change his son’s mind. He would always love and support his son.

Still, after Darren proposed to Sheena in February, it was hard to tell his father that he didn’t want him to perform the wedding.

“I tried to frame it in a positive light; I told him I wanted him to enjoy it without having to work it,” said Darren Thomas, a high school English teacher. “But we’re pretty passionate about our beliefs, and we want to have a secular service with no mention of God, Jesus, eternity or blessings.”

Growing up in West, Texas, Sheena Thomas and her family were pretty much the only people of color, so religion was a way for her to fit in, make friends and be part of a community. In college, she was exposed to a broad swath of faiths, ethnicities and sexual orientations.

Sheena began to question her own beliefs and came to realize that atheism felt right for her. Her family still struggles with this decision; her mother periodically laments that she won’t see her daughter in the afterlife, and her grandparents say they are praying for her. She keeps discussion of religion to a minimum.

Their attitude toward religion contributed in part to the couple’s decision to elope in July, about a year before they’d originally planned to have a wedding. Everyone knew the couple had gotten engaged in February, but when Sheena Thomas lost her job, they decided to get legally married without the celebration.

“We basically decided that it would be easier to tell everyone after the fact,” Darren Thomas said.

The Thomases made it official and then brought a wedding photographer to Denver’s Red Rock amphitheater, the site of their first date in 2011.

They still plan on throwing a book-themed wedding in July 2014 to celebrate their relationship and their shared passion. Sheena, a librarian, is working on bouquets and centerpieces of book pages, and the save-the-dates are made from old library due date cards.

The Thomases haven’t decided on readings, but they’re leaning toward some of their favorite texts related to love and romance. Darren’s looking at something from “Jane Eyre” or “Love in the Time of Cholera.” For Sheena, it might be Kurt Vonnegut.

“What has bothered me about some weddings is, the focus becomes God and religion when it should be about the two of you and your and relationship,” Sheena Thomas said.

“I like that our wedding is going to be focused on us and our love.”

Is it important to you that a wedding have religious elements? 

From the office of thebraveatheist:

Thank science that reason is spreading rapidly and old fairy tales are ebbing. The fact that this is garnering heavy coverage is very significant in our society. Ten years ago there wouldn’t be many stories such as this because atheists stayed mostly in the closet for fear of persecution. As more and more people admit that they just can’t swallow the bullshit anymore the younger atheists will feel empowered to show themselves, but they still feel the pressure from their closed-minded myth-believing counterparts. The encouraging thing is that most atheists know that AT LEAST a quarter of the christian followers in this country do not even believe in God but don’t know what to do with those feelings. They were raised by lackadaisical Christians and were exposed to more of the truth instead of the myths. Inside they actually don’t believe in supernatural garbage and are just afraid to let go of indoctrination.

The TRUE number of non-believers is actually astronomically higher than the current estimate and will soar as these people’s children come of age having not gone to church or studied the Ultimate Book of Fairy Tales.I, my friends, am truly excited in this dawning age of reason!  




Hello my friends,

My 20 year wedding anniversary is today and I celebrate it with the woman who has been by my side this whole time. She inspires me to brew better beer and to continue my career advancement in nursing and as a better father to my three children. I have tried to impart a doctrine of personal success and self-reliance to my children so that they may never become a cancerous boil on the ass of mankind and will always earn their own way! My wife and I have overcome many personal obstacles put in our way by irresponsible parents who sucked off of the labor of others and have changed the dynamic and direction of our own family. We believe and worship personal responsibility and bow at the alter of do-it-your-fucking-self. We received no help and pulled ourselves up by ourselves for ourselves, so fuck you godfolk and other deluded peeps! WE DID IT OURSELVES AND CONTINUE TO DO SO!!!! No anger, just pride in the fact that we never thought that some fucking god would rescue us! Thank you Melany, my partner in crime!


1. Decide to arrange for something other than yourself to exist

2. Create a being by the name of Lucifer with full knowledge that this being will betray you and ultimately cause an infinite amount of suffering unnecessarily.

3. Allow an unfathomably horrific dimension of existence known as ‘hell’ to emerge created by yourself or perhaps Lucifer and allow that dimension to continue existing. Do not override or prevent such a thing. It will come into play later

4. Create objective unchanging moral prescriptions and base them upon whatever your nature happens to be and then label any action or thought contrary to these standards ‘sin’.

5. Be sure to include in these moral prescriptions edits for social and psychological health such as encouragement to beat ones children with a rod, permission to buy and sell slaves and will them as property to ones children for life, requirement that women not be allowed to teach or have authority over men and of course the instruction to kill anyone who expresses interest in worshiping other gods.

6. Design a physical universe, planets, animals and vegetation all with the appearance of age be sure to include in your creation biological flaws redundancies and over-complications that appear as if they were the product of blind cumulative processes, perhaps a urinary tract that runs straight through the prostate gland or a unnecessary appendix prone to inflation and rupturing, or maybe a respiratory and digestive system forced to share the same plumbing, (these are just a few working ideas).

7. Create a garden with a tree in it bearing fruit that when eaten provides knowledge of your objective moral standards, and create two sentient cognitive beings without knowledge or awareness of these standards and instruct them not to eat from the tree which would enlighten them (in other words, arrange it so that only AFTER they eat from the tree are they capable of understanding that doing so was a violation of objective moral standards).

8. Warn these cognitive beings that they will undoubtedly die if they eat from this tree, but don’t follow through if they do, then endow a reptile with vocal cords, lips or some other means of speaking audibly to your cognitive beings enabling it to make a convincing case to one of them for eating from the tree. Do not prevent this or intervene.

9. Now by this point make sure your cognitive beings have been equipped for reproducing themselves and multiplying, and because one of them has sinned, arrange that every single one of their descendants until the end of time will be born with an inherited sinful nature, defaulting in a future of everlasting torment. Do not by any means allow each of them to be born with a clean slate and the capacity for living a sin-free life if they desire as you did with your first two prototypes.

10. Endow these cognitive beings with a ‘soul’ which keeps their thoughts and feelings and other cognitive faculties in existence forever one way or another. And then allow the sinfulness of these beings to be incompatible with your presence and let hell be the only other place that they can go once they exit the the physical world, do not make any attempt to spare these souls the eternal torment of hell such as allowing souls to stop existing all together or creating additional realm for them to reside besides with you or in hell.

11. Over time allow these beings to populate the earth you’ve creating, knowing with infallible certainty of course that after so many generations they will disappointed you enough that you find it necessary to kill all of them in a global flood and start all over from scratch.

12. Now when this happens (again right on schedule) make an exception for one small family of cognitive beings who you deem righteous of course it goes without saying that powers of omnipotence allow you to know, again, with infallible certainty that this family to will ultimately disappointing in the same way that those who you drowned, rendering the entire endeavor futile, but for now it’s best that you pretend not to know that.

13. Instruct this small disappointment of a family to populate the entire world all over again by way of incest.

14. Declare that until further notice the only way for these cognitive beings to rectify their sinful nature while on earth is to preform ritual animal sacrifice’s and other acts of senseless violence, additionally when certain sins are committed by any one of your cognitive beings demand that the surrounding community kill that being themselves.

15. In the meantime perform many epic miracles for all to see and intervene often with your physical creations, stop the sun in the sky, part the red sea, turn rivers into blood, and women into pillars of salt, give men superhuman strength, speak to the thousands with a booming voice from heaven etc, but before these cognitive beings become advanced enough in the area’s of science and communication that they could actually document, share, playback and verify these epic miracles, make sure you stop performing them all together .

16. Decide at some point that the most pressing of your objective moral prescriptions are not as obvious to these cognitive beings as you once thought, take this opportunity to chisel your top ten moral concerns into two tablets of stone and commission one of your cognitive beings to deliver these tablets to the masses, (Note to self: Roughly half of these moral concerns should center around pleasing you, praising you and remaining loyal to you)

17. After several thousand years impregnate one of these cognitive beings so that she gives birth to your son in physical form, who also happens to be you, at the same time.

18. Allow this cognitive being who is your son but also you to grow up and make several revisions to you/your son’s original standards of morality then arrange for other cognitive beings to torture and kill you/your son, authorize this sacrifice of yourself as a means of granting all other cognitive beings immunity from the consequences of their sinful nature, which you allowed them to be born with in the first place.

19. Do not however make this sacrifice free, establish that none of these cognitive beings shall be eligible for benefits of this sacrifice unless they actively believed that it happened, in other words, despite the quality of their intentions any cognitive beings henceforth who finds themselves unconvinced these events actually took place, is unwittingly designating themselves for the endless suffering of hell.

20. With that established, be sure to refrain from making it clear and knowable to the rest of the world that these events actually took place, ensure that no cognitive being after the first century has the luxury of witnessing your son who is also you say or do anything to indicate he was a living guy. Again, make sure that all of this occurs before advancements in science and technology are available to verify for those who aren’t present.

21. Arrange so that the only surviving record of these events will be offered anonymously by non-eye witness’s translated to a language different from the one you/ your son will speak written no earlier than thirty years after you/your son preformed these miracles and makes these clams, however do make sure that these records feature the precept that believing in something without evidence is morally superior to investigation and verification.

22. Be sure that after only a few decades the only accounts of these events in existence are copies of copies of copies which will be verifiably altered and added to in historically and theologically significant ways from generation to generation, sect to sect. Do not preserve the original copies of these accounts, do not protect them from revision, do not set in place any mechanism of protecting them from being interpreted in hundreds upon hundreds of ways most of which being heretical and therefore punishable.

23. Do not bother to employ your omniscience in such a way as to discern which of these cognitive beings are truly rebelling, and which simply don’t know how to distinguish you from other versions of god which do not in fact exist.

24. Do not make it clear to these beings that you are are even here. Allow for your very existence to remain an easily debatable, easily questionable, easily doubtable proposition, allow billions and billions of souls to be unthinkably tortured for all of eternity regardless of their character, integrity, bravery, responsibility or conduct because they had not correctly assumed that the right set of propositions were true by the time their lives on earth were over.

25. And finally… when all is said and done demand that you be praised for this plan.

Checkmate… there’s Christianity for you. 

Above content borrowed from an atheist argument site. Very pertinent and specific. This piece yet again asks why an all knowing omnipotent being would go thru all this fucking drama that reads like a bronze-age episode of the Kartrashians!



Living room-Present Day…

Mary.   Bob! I spilled Christ on the fucking couch again! What do I do to get the annoying stain out?

Bob.     Relax Mary! We had this problem when those Goddamned Jehovah’s Witnesses came over last week! I can solve this!

Mary.   With what? Stain removal of this magnitude is only MYTHALOGICAL! I’ve tried scrubbing and I’ve tried buffing! 

Bob.     Not with THIS! New Anti-Christ With ScotchGuard! It’ll remove that pesky Christ in record time with just a little common sense! See? That fucking stain is almost as forgotten as John Ratzinger!

Mary.    John who?

Bob.     EXACTLY! Look my little Oompa Loompa, the stain is gone as if it was a bunch of made up voo-doo!

Mary.    Oh Bob! You’re a fucking rock star! Thank you and thanks Anti-Christ! With a performance like that I practically worship You!

Anti-Christ! With ScotchGuard. It cuts thru the bullshit and gets right to the point!